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« on: July 07, 2007, 01:38:59 pm »

I took that Drop B Guitar test clip riff I did a while back and wrote a song around it.

The song reminded me of that old movie, the land that Time forgot for some reason and so I added barfing Dinosaur noises here and there.  :D

Here's mix #1 of The Guitar That Time Forgot
Silly title, but it also could be The Time that Guitar Forgot.  ;D

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http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Music/files/Guitarthattimeforgot.mp3


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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2007, 02:25:57 pm »

[size=16]Wow!    That is remarkably cool ![/size]  

Very primal!  It has alot of really interesting tonal shades to it.   [smiley=colorsm.gif]

Gave it several listens thru. I liked it. Definitely had a tonal theme to it and held my attention.
Barfasaurus, huh?   ;)
        
I'm quite stunned you can get that kind of tone with your setup.  Amazing to me!  Almost sounded like you were two different guitarists on the lead solos. I might consider boosting the second solo a tiny bit.

I like the percussion rhythm stuff you did. The shakers (or whatever those were) were just perfect. Can't figure out how you're doing that stuff with Beatcraft?

I tell you what, I'd love to see a video done with that tune. That'd be totally mega cool.
Very creative, I liked it.

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2007, 03:40:51 pm »

Well, you can see how it's done on the 21st.  ;D

I like this tune a bunch so far.
Sometimes I do stuff and forget about it as soon as it's finished.  ::)
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2007, 04:53:56 pm »

Heavy crunchin' gruv and paint peelin' tone. Nuff' said.

Definately, all thumbs up!!

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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2007, 06:28:12 pm »

Very heavy, me likes.
Slickness.
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2007, 09:32:30 pm »

Yes, man, this is a good one.  Great theme of some kind.  Yeah, probably for big lizards!

Send it to Satch, he'll cut it, if you split the royalties with him.  :)

Very nice man, very cool.  Keep laying down the creative stuff; it's inspiring.

BTW, that was a cool movie (based on an H.G. Wells book I think).  Doug McClure.

Edit:  Nope it was Burroughs.

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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2007, 08:19:42 am »

Very nice doug. I thought it was going to be a heavy head banging song but all the nice guitar work softened it up just right. I like the bass work on the change ups, but I would notice that since mainly play bass. That is way better than alot of stuff people are making alot of money on. If you could add some of the other music you have been doing maybe you would have enough for a CD?

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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2007, 02:02:30 pm »

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Almost sounded like you were two different guitarists on the lead solos
I always have 2, 3 or more guitar parts layered to give it a big full sound.

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like the bass work on the change ups, but I would notice that since mainly play bass
I actually spent some time and came up with some cool bass riffs on this one for a change.

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That is way better than alot of stuff people are making alot of money on. If you could add some of the other music you have been doing maybe you would have enough for a CD?
I have enough stuff for a CD, but who wants to listen to the guitar instrumental stuff anymore except you and me?

It would be way cooler to write the songs and have real artist do them as Bassmanster said above.
I supposed I should look into copywriting my stuff or whatever the hell you do when you write songs.
 
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2007, 05:15:14 pm »

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Hmmm I guess if a person was serious about it, it may be a good idea to copywrite it before anyone else is allowed to hear it. At least it would give a person a dated product. I would never be talented enough to worry about stuff like that.
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2007, 08:44:59 pm »

Rockin tone, man! Put the cans on my 5 year old and he said "that's cool!" and started boppin'.

So there's a new demographic for you to market...
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2007, 08:20:52 am »

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Hmmm I guess if a person was serious about it, it may be a good idea to copywrite it before anyone else is allowed to hear it. At least it would give a person a dated product. I would never be talented enough to worry about stuff like that.

I'm not a lawyer, but AFAIK, music is considered legally copyrighted as soon as it is written down or recorded.  What the copyright office does is register your copyright.  A registered copyright may have a stronger case in court if it ever comes to that, but not absolutely necessary to establish authorship and your rights.

With the internet, servers, etc, there is a pretty verifiable digital trail of evidence as to when things were stored, posted, emailed, etc.. .  I have posted some of my stuff on Soundclick before I registered the copyright, and emailed copies to myself to more than one of my email accounts.

Probably overkill, I really don't think there are song stealers hiding around every corner.  I don't think it would be very profitable.  It's a lot of work to promote and market any music to the point where you make decent money from it, those who are successful at it don't have to steal music.

My opinion, worth what you paid for it.

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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2007, 08:45:45 am »

True that.  You'd have to write something as perfect as Sleepwalk or Walk Don't Run to arouse any envy.  Since I don't view tune writing as something I have much control over (it just happens), I'd say that's akin to finding a gold nugget next to the sidewalk.
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2007, 09:37:55 am »

I went and did some reading on copyrights.
Mailing a copy to yourself is bunk, it's an old tale, it does not stand up as proof.

Any sort of recorded media is proof and that's all you have to submit when you file for a copyright.
Cost about $30, takes about 5 months but you are protected as soon as it is received at the copyright office.
You don't have to wait until the official approval comes through.

I just thought it would be cool to do if I ever submitted a tune to an artist.
Song writing is where the money is, not the performing.
I always thought it would be way cooler to have written a song or a screenplay or a book that was eventually recorded or used by big time players.
You can stay at home, write the material and remain in the background out of the limelight.

Besides, I'm not talented enough to be a performer, I have no interest in standing on a stage, sleeping on a bus, being away from my home or dealing with record company weasels to try and scrape out a meager living.
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2007, 07:08:33 pm »

Yeah, which isn't to say Doug couldn't get this one out there.  That would be awesome.

I'd like to try it too when and if I get to that point.

I envy Diane Warren; I admit it.
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2007, 10:22:24 pm »

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but who wants to listen to the guitar instrumental stuff anymore except you and me?
me, Zappa's shut up and play your guitar is one of my all time favorites.
The Guitar That Time Forgot fits right in
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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2007, 06:07:00 am »

Ok, there's like 5 guys.  ;D
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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2007, 06:28:45 am »

Add my name to the list of listening to instrumental to make an even half dozen.   ;)

I own 3 times more  CD's and tapes with vocals but actually listen to instrumental stuff probably twice as much.

I'll put on a Johnny A, Chet Atkins, Jeff Golub,  or Larry Carlton/ Fourplay CD on before I listen to Tab Benoit or Albert Collins.

I'd just as soon guys like Eric Johnson not sing at all.   ;D


AND I agree the stuff you've created is comparable or better to anything I have on CD's. Definitely worth being copywrited.  

One of my closer friends retired quite well off financially at around 46yrs old and moved to Nashville to make it as a songwriter. He is off the chart incredible in his ability. I think his stuff is Vince Gill quality easily.   However, after 4 years of it ......... it's proving a VERY tough field to get into for him.  Listening to him talk about getting someone to record his music (in the country music industry) sounds like one of the toughest most competitive jobs out there. Fortunately, my friend will probably never need to work again except at his choosing.

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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2007, 07:41:29 am »

Yeah, I wouldn't want to have to do it for a living.
It's like trying to open a mom and pop wal-mart copy, next to a super Wal-Mart.  ;D
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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2007, 09:26:23 pm »

That is a great analogy!  "mom & pop  VS  super Walmart"

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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2007, 07:29:45 am »

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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2007, 01:30:36 pm »

Sounds great! When you say custom preamp is that something you built?
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2007, 07:03:51 am »

Yes, it's the stereo tube pre amp project on the library page.
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