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« on: June 30, 2009, 07:22:54 am »


My son gave me an E-Mu preamp recording device for Father's Day. It was a very unexpected gift.

http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?category=610&subcategory=611&product=17511

Anyhow, for the first time now I can record the overdriven tones of my amps. Hooray! Up til now I could only record a clean tone, but this gizmo seems to work great with it & it sounds like the amp does (more or less).

He stated that using a USB port along with the download program (included) would work better than the plugging directly into the sound card. He's right.

I had gotten somewhat unmotivated to continue recording in the same vein of just clean tones. Especially since I've been playing more overdriven type stuff lately.

I'm pretty excited about the new possibilities.

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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2009, 08:32:22 am »

Congrats.  Good mic preamps make a huge difference.
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2009, 09:56:49 am »

E-Mu had a "Production Tools Software Bundle DVD" included in with the preamp.   However, my computer does not have a DVD player and only a CD player. I think I can buy a download to fix that??

BUT, I don't know whether I want the different software included?

- E-Mu Proteus VX                              (different sounds?)
- Cakewalk Sonar LE                           (some kind of recording program?_
- Steingberg Cubase LE4
- Celemony Melodyne Essential
- IK Multimedia AmpliTude Duo            (can dial in different amps, cabinets?)
- SFX Machine LT

I use Mixcraft and Beatcraft already.  Any of these other ones worth pursuing?
I mic my amp into the preamp and record.

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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2009, 09:58:05 am »

Recording is a blast for sure. Hey, tubenit since Your a tinkerer You could look into upgrading to op amps in that unit with some burr browns or something simular.  :glasses9: :glasses9: Its a common type mod for audio interfaces.

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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2009, 09:59:10 am »

I have used Sonar since Cakewalk 7. Still use it today. I love it!
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2009, 10:02:25 am »

OK, thanks for the info.

How about

Ableton Live Lite 6 E-Mu Edition?

or

Waldorf Edition LE

I have CD downloads for those also.

Those worth installing?

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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2009, 10:11:07 am »

Ableton Live Lite is bundled with ALOT of interfaces. Never tried it. There is probably alot of online help out there since it ships with so many units.

Waldorf Edition LE. I have no idea.

ALL the titles for recording i.e. sonar,ableton, protools,Steingberg Cubase, function in relatively the same way. Once You get the hang of one of em, You'll kinda get how they all work. They will have a different GUI and what not but funtionaly close to the same.

Some software features are geared towards midi and audio. Some are audio with a little midi, others are midi with some audio. Most now-a-days tho can cover both pertty well.

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2009, 11:09:40 am »

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I use Mixcraft and Beatcraft already.  Any of these other ones worth pursuing?

Cubase is!!! It's a very intuitive program for recording, far better than Audacity (yuck) or Acid, etc.

BTW with that interface, you can record two simultaneous tracks using Cubase. This means you can get two sources for your guitar sound. You could put one mike up close, one mike farther away for some room sound; put reverb on one, put delay on the other, pan them seperately in the mix... use two amps at once, mike them seperately... the possibilities are endless! You can create some massive, spacious sounds this way.

Also if you use Cubase, you'll need to set it up right so the program uses your interface. (It will default to your computer's sound card.) Go to "Transport" > "Device setup" and change it to the USB interface. (It should appear in the dropdown.)
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2009, 12:14:01 pm »

Cubase also has tones of online support. Forums and stuff. Makes it easier to trouble shoot.

I hadnt actually tried Audacity, but I thought since it was not a light or demo version it might get it done. Its real simple to run too.
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2009, 12:24:32 pm »

I just played around with Audacity. I think to get Your feet wet it might be ok.
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2009, 01:19:55 pm »

Guys,

I think I'm gonna stick with Mixcraft and Beatcraft (for the recording) as I am familiar with it. I'm really wanting something like a scaled down version of what EL34 has with GuitarRig. 

I'm thinking that the Amplitude Duo might fit that bill? In other words, I'm looking to add some nice effects as the Mixcraft is only just OK for delay, EQ and compression. Don't like any other Mixcraft effects.

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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2009, 01:57:30 pm »

Audacity is pretty good for mastering.
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2009, 02:01:05 pm »

However, my computer does not have a DVD player and only a CD player. I think I can buy a download to fix that??

Nope, you'll need to buy a DVD play to use that disc.  But they are cheap, and really easy to install.


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You can use Alcohol or DAEMON Tools to "mount" images of DVD's
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2009, 07:26:25 pm »

I've used Cakewalk and Sonar a lot, but find Pro Tools LE GREAT! For effects routing and ease of use it's pretty neat and sounds awesome. Cant beat Sonar and CW for midi though!
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2009, 04:10:07 pm »

I've used Cakewalk and Sonar a lot, but find Pro Tools LE GREAT! For effects routing and ease of use it's pretty neat and sounds awesome. Cant beat Sonar and CW for midi though!


For sure back in the day i.e. Cakewalk it was pretty much for midi and did a great job at it.

The current Sonar has an awesome audio engine and can hang with the best of em, inclueding Protools.

I think Pro toools is still 16 bit IIRC, Sonar is 64 bit.


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