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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2006, 09:46:07 pm »

Barry,

No Problem.  At home I'm using 2003.  At work, where I have access to a plotter I'm using an older version.  I'll have to speak with my IT team.  I think the changed something on my system.  I'm sure that I used to have 2003 on there.

Anyway,  just wanted to say thanks.  Man, you did an excellent job at these drawings.  These are going to make this next build a "piece of cake."

I wasn't planning on using a master volume.  Is there really any advantage?  Also,  I was considering one of the new Neodymium speakers (12") to keep the weight down.  Have you heard anything about them?  I still haven't had an opportunity to actually hear one in action.  

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Thanks for a great job on the drawings.

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #51 on: December 27, 2006, 09:50:37 am »
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Barry,

No Problem.  At home I'm using 2003.  At work, where I have access to a plotter I'm using an older version.  I'll have to speak with my IT team.  I think the changed something on my system.  I'm sure that I used to have 2003 on there.

Anyway,  just wanted to say thanks.  Man, you did an excellent job at these drawings.  These are going to make this next build a "piece of cake."

I wasn't planning on using a master volume.  Is there really any advantage?  Also,  I was considering one of the new Neodymium speakers (12") to keep the weight down.  Have you heard anything about them?  I still haven't had an opportunity to actually hear one in action.  

Again,

Thanks for a great job on the drawings.

Jim

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Jim,
 I'm building these amps for studio use.  Anyway you look at it 12 to 15 watts is still loud for that purpose.  As far as choosing between a master volume or an external attenuator each one has its own effect on the sound.  With the attenuator you still get the power tube distortion although you have to boost the highs on the amp to compensate for the loss of that frequency range due to its use.  That will probably be my final choice when recording but I thought I'd throw in a PPIMV for extra versatility.  The reason I'm using a 1MA pot with a push/pull switch is so I can take the PPIMV completely out of the circuit if I desire which leaves the circuit stock.  

By the way, on the stencils, the .022uf 630V cap in the small signal and coupling capacitors stencil was mistakenly labeled  .0022.  To change it just right click the stencil bar and choose edit stencil, then double click the item and it will open up in an editing window.  You can take out the extra 0 there.  After you do, click on the "X" of the editing window to close it and answer yes to the pop up for updating the item.  When you put a stencil in editing mode you will see a red asterik on the title bar.  When you've edited a stencil there will be a little floppy disk icon on the bar.  Right click any stencil with that icon and choose "save" to make sure edits are saved.  You can create your own objects and drag them into any stencil opened for editing this way.  When you add a new item in a stencil it will be assigned a default name like "master 26".  To give it a name that makes sense just right click on the item and rename it.

  Here's one more tip; to have faceplates made by bnplasers print your Visio faceplate page to a PDF file and send that file to them.  They use Corel Draw 12 to run the laser engravers and that program imports PDF nicely.  This will save you the $25 set up fee for each plate.  I just ordered two sets of the front and back plates in reverse etched black with white letters for $73 total.  Jeanne at BNP is awesome to work with.  If you don't want master volume just remove it from the Visio layout and give your amp name some more shoulder room.  Do whatever you want with the faceplates.  Just don't leave "Corona AmpWorks"  ;)

Also, please be aware that I moved the on/off toggle and added a standby switch to the back panel of the mojo chassis.  This leaves the original hole for the on/off toggle covered by the backplate and I'm drilling two new holes for the new locations.  The old ground switch hole is also covered up with plate.  The holes for the fuse, speakers, and the tremolo and reverb jacks are in their actual locations per the mojo chassis.

As far as the Neo speakers, I've not tried them.  I won't be lugging the amp I keep anywhere as I don't gig so weight is not an issue for me.  Tone is my only concern which is why I'm going with a 12" baffle board now for speaker versatility.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2007, 10:47:23 am »
Had an error on the layout, the intensity pot was labeled audio instead of linear.  That is fixed now.  Don't forget to refresh the page with your browser.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2007, 02:34:43 pm »
OK Barry,  that was one of my questions on the pots. The other question , which I put on my post is about the master (volume?) in the chassis picture with the board.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2007, 06:55:27 pm »
Ok Barry, I have another question .  Looking at the Fender chassis layout, it appears that the reverb pedal jack is a shorting type and the other three with it on the back panel- vibrato, reverb input&output are open type jacks..is that correct?  Also is the main speaker jack a shorting type?  I usually see the extension speaker jack as a shorting type.

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2007, 07:07:38 pm »
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Ok Barry, I have another question .  Looking at the Fender chassis layout, it appears that the reverb pedal jack is a shorting type and the other three with it on the back panel- vibrato, reverb input&output are open type jacks..is that correct?  Also is the main speaker jack a shorting type?  I usually see the extension speaker jack as a shorting type.

             BILL
Bill the 4 jacks grouped together (Reverb send, reverb return, reverb pedal, and tremolo or vibrato pedal) are RCA jacks not switchcraft jacks.  They only have one conductor and the body is ground.  The Reverb pedal and Reverb output jacks are wired together, with a wire then running to pin 2 of V3, and also a 220k resistor going to ground.
The main speaker jack on the Fender layout is a shorting type which shorts the OT secondary to ground if no speaker is plugged in.  A 470 ohm 5 watt resistor in place of that jumper wire on the shorting jack would be a better safety.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2007, 07:21:27 pm »
Ok again.    Thanks again!!!   So the reverb tank is plugged in externally into the RCA phono type jacks.   I didn't look at my big Fender amp before I asked, and I see now that it has the same jack set-up.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #57 on: January 17, 2007, 12:30:04 pm »
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Had an error on the layout, the intensity pot was labeled audio instead of linear.  That is fixed now.  Don't forget to refresh the page with your browser.

Barry,

I've started working on the circuit board layout to ensure that everything is going to fit.  Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the .1uf and .047uf caps in the first stage seem very small (physical size that is).  
In fact, I'm wondering if all the tubular caps shown on the drawing are too small.

I've purchased the Mallory caps and they appear to be bigger than the allotted size on the board.  Is the turret spacing correct or do I have to adjust the spacing of the turrets to accomodate the larger cap bodies?

Jim

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #58 on: January 17, 2007, 12:44:41 pm »
I've purchased the Mallory caps and they appear to be bigger than the allotted size on the board.  Is the turret spacing correct or do I have to adjust the spacing of the turrets to accomodate the larger cap bodies?

With a Hoffman board (using his drilling template), the turrets are 19/64th inch center-to-center (I just busted out the steel rule and big Hoffman aluminum drilling template to check). Measure and see what you turret spacing is.

On a Hoffman board, 400v Mallory 150's or 630v small-value 150's fit no problem. Orange drop or other polypropylene caps tend to be big, and usually have to sit high above the turrets so they can be allowed to crowd over other turrets. That's because they're physically very large by comparison.

I haven't tried printing out Barry's layout, because I have my drilling guide to use when laying out a turret board, so I can't tell you if the printed page comes out the right size (and that may even depend on your print setup options). All I can say is triple check (like you have), and if you need to, simply allow the caps to ride high so that they have room to sit over other turrets as needed to make them fit.

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #59 on: January 17, 2007, 01:58:32 pm »
Barry's layout came out OK for me, full size printed out.  I checked spacing and it was right on.  Those little yellow caps sure are small. I wasn't sure I had the right values when I first saw them.  Doug's  .1 mf caps fit the board just right in the positions listed for them.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #60 on: January 17, 2007, 10:17:47 pm »
All of the dimensions of the components shown on the board were either taken from the Mouser catalog manufacturer's cut sheet or measured by me while I did the drawing.  The turret spacing is completely accurate at 19/64 horzontially (not vertically as the vertical distances between rows varies) if you print the drawing without scaling (no fit to page).  All of my layouts use the actual layout of Doug's drilling guide.  There may be an errant component that is minutely off in size, but everything should fit.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #61 on: January 21, 2007, 05:21:46 pm »
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Ok, I did some digging in my parts stock and found some Mallory .1uf 630 volt caps that are longer then the turret spacing on the board.  If that's what you bought, then I would suggest doing this with the leads"

Barry,

Thanks.  Actually,  I reworked your original layout.  I used the cap stencil that includes Mallory 150s'.  Everything looks fine now.  Also I've been able to shorten the board about an inch with changing the .29" spacing the Doug uses.

I've used your suggested technique on my previous build with the Orange drops.

Thanks again for all of your help.  I post some photos as I start working on this build.

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #62 on: January 21, 2007, 05:59:18 pm »
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Ok, I did some digging in my parts stock and found some Mallory .1uf 630 volt caps that are longer then the turret spacing on the board.  If that's what you bought, then I would suggest doing this with the leads"

Barry,

Thanks.  Actually,  I reworked your original layout.  I used the cap stencil that includes Mallory 150s'.  Everything looks fine now.  Also I've been able to shorten the board about an inch with changing the .29" spacing the Doug uses.

I've used your suggested technique on my previous build with the Orange drops.

Thanks again for all of your help.  I post some photos as I start working on this build.

Jim
Jim, you want to share the Visio drawing on the reworked layout?
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #63 on: January 23, 2007, 04:39:41 pm »
Does anyone  on this forum have specifications for a Princeton Reverb cabinet??    I could buy one, but I would rather build it. (keeps me out of the bars)   Not only that, I have more time than money in the winter, and all the tooling for woodwork. :)

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  Oh yeah, I have my amp up and running, but dont understand how the little bias pot and selectable resistor are used to adjust bias. :-?
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #64 on: January 23, 2007, 10:21:33 pm »
Bill,

I would  love to help you but I don't have any drawings of the cabinet for any Fender style amps.  I've been looking for quite some time.  On my last build ( Deluxe Reverb Clone) I used the basic dimesions shown on the Ampwares page.

If you do find some actual drawings, please let me know.  I too, prefer to work from drawings then from some nebulous idea on how the cabinet is designed.

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #65 on: January 23, 2007, 11:04:54 pm »
If you can get the dimensions of a PR chassis and a picture of the amp you should be able to come very close. Just work out from the chassis. Of course if someone took a ruler to theirs it would be easier.

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #66 on: January 23, 2007, 11:26:30 pm »
yes, I have a Mojo chassis, like original. If the length , width and depth were available I would do it that way.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #67 on: January 24, 2007, 12:06:12 am »
According to the FFG, they are 20 x 16 1/4 x 9 1/2.
If you plan to use a 12 in there, you may want to make it taller, depending on how much clearance you have or want.

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #68 on: January 24, 2007, 07:49:17 am »
Thanks for the responses guys :)

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #69 on: January 24, 2007, 06:42:27 pm »
Bill,
 I have a raw finger jointed pine cab with a 12" baffle I had built by JD Newell.  If you'd like I can do a drawing for you with photos.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #70 on: January 24, 2007, 07:33:05 pm »
Thanks for the offer Barry.  I just decided to buy one.  I had a quote from a guy named Steve Watson last Dec, and just ordered it.
  
    I really DO appreciate the offer.   My Princeton reverb is running great, and it's the quietest amp I ever heard, Many thanks to you and Hot Blue Plates :)

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #71 on: January 24, 2007, 07:56:20 pm »
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Thanks for the offer Barry.  I just decided to buy one.  I had a quote from a guy named Steve Watson last Dec, and just ordered it.
  
    I really DO appreciate the offer.   My Princeton reverb is running great, and it's the quietest amp I ever heard, Many thanks to you and Hot Blue Plates :)

        Kind Regards    BILL :)
I told you you'd beat me across the finish line.  I'm Jealous.  Isn't it sweet cranking up one's own baby?  Hot Blue Plates is really the one to thank.  He whipped that layout out of no where pretty darn fast.  My Princeton is on hold thanks to the NAMM Vibroverb I built.  I got several inquiries on it and now I've got more to build.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #72 on: January 24, 2007, 08:01:22 pm »
 Hi Barry   Glad to hear the Vibroverb program is moving for you :)
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #73 on: January 25, 2007, 09:14:11 am »
I finished a 6L6 based princeton reverb using the fender layout a few months ago and have been playing it since.  I am really not happy with the noise level of this amp.  My deluxe reverb (using a hoffman style board) is really a much better amp.  I am going to pull the princeton board and use the layout from this thread.  Anybody tried 6L6s on this layout?

Great thread and THANKS.

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #74 on: January 25, 2007, 09:58:24 am »
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I finished a 6L6 based princeton reverb using the fender layout a few months ago and have been playing it since.  I am really not happy with the noise level of this amp.  My deluxe reverb (using a hoffman style board) is really a much better amp.  I am going to pull the princeton board and use the layout from this thread.  Anybody tried 6L6s on this layout?

Great thread and THANKS.

Norm
Hey Norm.  Welcome aboard buddy.  I've not used 6L6s on this layout but just finished a Vibroverb  a couple of months ago with Doug's AB763 layout and the trem mods shown in the archive section in this thread:

http://76.162.4.197/Forum/yabb2/nph-YaBB.pl?num=1164566830

Of course it's got alot more power than the Princeton with it's small OT and PT but it is a really sweet amp with the 1X15" configuration.  It's good to see you posting in here.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #75 on: January 25, 2007, 10:18:36 am »
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I finished a 6L6 based princeton reverb using the fender layout a few months ago and have been playing it since.  I am really not happy with the noise level of this amp.  My deluxe reverb (using a hoffman style board) is really a much better amp.  I am going to pull the princeton board and use the layout from this thread.  Anybody tried 6L6s on this layout?

Great thread and THANKS.

Norm
Hey Norm.  Welcome aboard buddy.  I've not used 6L6s on this layout but just finished a Vibroverb  a couple of months ago with Doug's AB763 layout and the trem mods shown in the archive section in this thread:

http://76.162.4.197/Forum/yabb2/nph-YaBB.pl?num=1164566830

Of course it's got alot more power than the Princeton with it's small OT and PT but it is a really sweet amp with the 1X15" configuration.  It's good to see you posting in here.
Barry

Thanks!

I have a 180ma PT in my princeton and a vibrolux style OT.  Still not as loud as my 6L6 deluxe though.   The princeton fender layout has more noise than I expected.  It is not as bad my bass players insanely expensive bass rig but much more than I expected.

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #76 on: April 01, 2007, 09:10:40 pm »
Has anyone out there besides Bill finished their Hoffman Princeton Reverb?  I just about got mine done but I've been side tracked with the AC30's.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #77 on: April 01, 2007, 10:46:28 pm »
Hopefully that project will make it into the Library.   It was a really fun project and came out beautifully. :)
Those amps (originals) are going for BIG BUCKS on ebay, and I couldn't justify $1200 to $2200 for an original.  Not only that, the modern clone may be better anyway!!
  I had always wanted one, and I perked up when I saw the project on here from HBP and Barry.
   Thanks once again Barry!! ;D  

Oh yeah, I ordered the cab in January (!!) and it's gonna be here tomorrow on DHL :)
I've been running it thru other cabs.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #78 on: April 02, 2007, 08:20:17 am »
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Has anyone out there besides Bill finished their Hoffman Princeton Reverb?  I just about got mine done but I've been side tracked with the AC30's.

I am going to start mine this week.  Did you end up using the capcan?

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #79 on: April 02, 2007, 08:44:51 am »
I used a cap can, and ran the wiring along under the board.  I was concerned about hum , but it turned out to be super quiet.

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #80 on: April 02, 2007, 09:06:36 am »
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I used a cap can, and ran the wiring along under the board.  I was concerned about hum , but it turned out to be super quiet.

BILL

I will probably cut my board tomorrow.  I only have the .1uf mallories so I will to adjust the layout some.

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #81 on: April 05, 2007, 04:40:47 pm »
Is anybody actually making these boards? I have been toying with the idea of putting a Princeton Reverb into a Blues Junior case, and this sounds like something that might fit. It would make for a wolf in sheep\s clothing, wouldn't it?

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #82 on: April 05, 2007, 09:15:20 pm »
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Is anybody actually making these boards? I have been toying with the idea of putting a Princeton Reverb into a Blues Junior case, and this sounds like something that might fit. It would make for a wolf in sheep\s clothing, wouldn't it?
Well it would definitely be a different animal.  I think everyone is just making their own boards.  It's not that hard to do.  You can get the board, turrets, buss wire and drill bit from Doug.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #83 on: April 05, 2007, 10:22:14 pm »
OK blueslide guitar, I have a template for the PR board. If you send me the board I'll drill it for you.  In fact, if you send the turrets ( I think there are 87 of them) I'll swage them in for you.  You will just have postage costs, here and back.

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #84 on: April 06, 2007, 02:58:46 pm »
That sounds like a sweet deal to me! You are too kind! But what are the dimensions of the board? I'd like to measure my BJr. first.  I assume you are referring to the standard blue board that Doug sells? This is really righteous of you man.

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #85 on: April 06, 2007, 03:45:35 pm »
No Blues, the board I'm talking about is the one on this post on page 1 that bnwitt and HBP layed out.  Doug doesn't sell a Princeton Reverb board   (or I would have bought one :))
  Check it out and see what you think.   The blank board is from Doug, 3.125 wide by 13.250 long.  I believe the 3 1/8  (3.125) wide is the standard width that Doug sells, and you have to specify the length, with decimals, like the 13.250".  Barry (bnwitt) also shows a shorter board. I don't have a template for that one.  If I had the paper template for the short board I could use that to do a board for you also. I would just transfer it to another metal drilling template.  Oh yeah, Dougs current board color is sort of tan.  Look on his parts listing for board building parts.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #86 on: July 05, 2007, 11:44:03 am »
Check your email. While you're there look in your sent files folder. You may still have a copy in there.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #87 on: July 05, 2007, 12:03:26 pm »
Steve,
Thanks for the email, but I'm not talking about my drawings.  I can still find those, no Alzheimer's yet  ;D  I'm talking about the actual chassis drawing.  Someone did one that showed all of the chassis dimensions including the front slant angle etc.  I used it to start my scaled wiring layout before I got the Mojo chassis for actual measurements and now I can't find it.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #88 on: July 06, 2007, 10:08:34 am »
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Did anyone ever create an ExpressSCH file of the Hoffman style board layout?

If not, I guess HBP started with the Deluxe Reverb, so I could do the same.  Guess I'm just lazy!

Cheers,

Chip

Chip,
As far as I can tell, the hoffman layout of the princeton reverb is schematically identical to the Fender version with the exception of:
1. the added 100 ohm artificial center tap resistors on the heater circuit
2. the added 470 ohm screen resistors on the power tubes
3. the added 1 ohm bias measuring resistors on the power tube cathodes
4. the addition of the 10K-L bias pot before the tremolo/vibrato intensity pot
5. 22uf 50Volt electrolytics instead of 25uf 25Volt caps on the triode cathodes and 22uf 450Volt caps instead of 20s on the filter caps.

I think that is it.  HPB, speak up if I missed something.

With the exception of the electrolytic cap uf changes every change is a valuable one.  The minimal value cap changes don't do anything one way or the other but raising the preamp cap voltage ratings is a good idea.

Barry
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #89 on: July 07, 2007, 12:50:51 pm »
Really cool little amp guys. :-)

Where does a person get a faceplate made for one of these Hoffman PR's?

thanks

Jim

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #90 on: July 07, 2007, 01:17:27 pm »
Jim,
If you don't want the master volume (most folks do not) you can get the cabinet, chassis and the plates from Mojo Musical supply.  If you want custom face and rear plates, Jeanne at sales@bnplasers.com can do anything for you.  They use corel draw, but any vector program (like Visio or Illustrator) can print to a PDF and she can import it for laser engraving.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #91 on: July 07, 2007, 04:26:38 pm »
Jim - Marsh Amps makes faceplates that look remarkably vintage... They are also a re-seller for Mojo, so you can buy the chassis and cabinet there too.

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #92 on: July 08, 2007, 12:35:04 pm »
Hi again,

just want to make sure that the dimensions of the short board are 3.25 x 11.5, is that correct?

Thanks.

Jim

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #93 on: July 12, 2007, 06:41:16 pm »
I have eliminated all of the multiple posts with various graphics to minimize confusion.  I will post the current drawings.  Be aware that if you don't want a master volume, you just need to eliminate that pot and its wires.

the wiring layout
« Last Edit: September 22, 2008, 07:15:16 pm by bnwitt »
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #94 on: July 12, 2007, 06:42:36 pm »
The board.
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #95 on: July 12, 2007, 06:43:49 pm »
the loaded board
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #96 on: July 12, 2007, 06:44:38 pm »
The Chassis
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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #97 on: July 14, 2007, 02:31:20 pm »
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Hi again,

just want to make sure that the dimensions of the short board are 3.25 x 11.5, is that correct?

Thanks.

Jim

It's 31/8, so 3.125, not 3.25.

This is a great thread.

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #98 on: July 15, 2007, 08:58:41 pm »
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Hi again,

just want to make sure that the dimensions of the short board are 3.25 x 11.5, is that correct?

Thanks.

Jim

It's 31/8, so 3.125, not 3.25.

This is a great thread.


Ah yes... thanks  I mis-typed that and meant 3.125.

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Re: Hoffman Style Board for a Princeton Reverb
« Reply #99 on: July 17, 2007, 12:29:56 am »
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I have eliminated all of the multiple posts with various graphics to minimize confusion.  I will post the current drawings.  Be aware that if you don't want a master volume, you just need to eliminate that pot and its wires.

the wiring layout

Are the three .1 uf 630V caps shown in brown on the right side of the board supposed to be a different kind of cap than the ones shown in yellow elsewhere on the board?

 


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