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« on: April 16, 2006, 06:31:46 pm » |
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http://www.barrierislandgraphics.com/forumfiles/HFOS%20rough%20final%2Emp3Gimme any feedback you have. I'm gonna add more acoustic guitar and retrack some of my leads. I like this guitar sound. Fender reverb unit, tube amp. Large diaphragm condenser 1 foot off the grille. Some compression to keep it under control but no EQ or anything else.
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BriteLite
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2006, 11:40:34 pm » |
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Heartful and Soulful. Some backing needed as you mentioned but well orchestrated. Perhaps increase the prominence of your lead.
Great tune you chose. Long time since I last heard it.
Good work!
Peace
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The way you judge a man is look into his soul.
Danny Joe Brown (RIP)
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2006, 06:06:12 am » |
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Great guitar tone BM!!!!!!
I think it needs some sort of divider between the verses and chorus like a drum and or bass break diddy. It's too quiet between those sections or something.
It would also be cool to have the reverb unit do the background singers part.
The whoo - o -o- o - oh!
The reverb could be cranked way up and so it sounds like it' sin a cave and far away.
Funny, I can hear your click beat in the background on the ending.
Unless you have a big ass grandfather clock that runds fast. ;D
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Bassmanster
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2006, 08:56:55 am » |
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Thanks gents! I will take your advices this week.
And I'll turn off the metronome!
Now I gotta go give Gman some props.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2006, 06:23:08 am » |
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Man, that's sounding good BM.
The drums, bass and guitar tone is great.
I like the break too.
I kept wanting a bit of fuzz tone on the part after the words heart full of soul, but that's jut me.
Nice job.
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Bassmanster
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2006, 06:56:40 am » |
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Thanks! OK, maybe I'll try my melody maker and a tube screamer on the riff.
I think I miked it too close this time. Lost some of the space in the guitar tone. I'm gonna keep toying without getting too puckered about it.
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2006, 08:43:38 am » |
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You can just copy your guitar track to another track, pan them 75/25 25/75, add 25ms of delay to one of the tracks and you will get a real full sounding guitar.
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Bassmanster
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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2006, 08:57:18 am » |
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That'll be easy to try! OK.
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2006, 09:44:16 am » |
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Ya, it's fast and sounds great.
I do it with drum, bass, guitar tracks on every one of my recordings.
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Bassmanster
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2006, 08:20:26 am » |
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This is it. I'm sick of it now. Even though I somehow put some dead air on the end! I couldn't bring myself to fuzz the riff but I did put a subtle doubletrack on the leads. Cleaned up some messes and got a better mix. Turned up the acoustic guitar! Put more tambourine on stuff. I gotta fever and that's the cure. http://www.barrierislandgraphics.com/forumfiles/HFOS%20FinalIII%2Emp3 |
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2006, 12:33:23 pm » |
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The lead sound so much fuller now, nice!
It sounds great the way it is.
Call it quits before you go mad. [smiley=out_cold.gif] [smiley=faint.gif]
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2006, 04:55:21 pm » |
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I finally got caught up on a few things in life and gave this a listen-
Very nice Bass, I really like it. Unfortunately, I don't think I can cover anything as well as you guys as I would end up butchering it. At least when it is my original, no one can say it is wrong.
From my engineering days, I always want to know what hardware is being used on these recordings. A suggestion (random thought) is to list the primary equipment (guitar, pickups, amp, mics, recording hardware/software, etc.) when posting a song. This may be a hassle, but I for one would definitely be interested.
Anyway, cudos again Bass.
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2006, 08:46:37 pm » |
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Thanks Gman! It does take me a while to figure out all the nuances (what few I manage) of how to play it. A good while as you see in the longevity of this thread! And of course some things are beyond me.
Most of the sounds are in Garage Band. I have the rhythm section and world music jam packs. I'm an apple guy because I know a drummer inside the company...he sends me stuff!
Sometimes I play real fender bass direct but this is all Garage Band. I edited the MIDIish bass parts until they seemed to work.
Guitar is a Strat on the bridge pup for most of it. Stew Mac pup. Amp is homemade but mostly a cathode-biased blonde bassman circuit and SS rectifier through two old CTS 10s. Old Tung Sols and new preamp tubes. Reverb is a RI Fender unit with good tubes and a Hoffman bought three-springer. Some of the guitar has the amp's bias tremolo and is on the strat #2 position for less noise. On some of the tremolo you can hear amp noise; ah well. Obviously some of the guitar has volume swell; I suck at using the guitar knob so I use the cheaper Ernie Ball floor pedal instead.
This is the part I am stoked about: I miked it with one super cheap large diaphragm condenser (Nady SCM 900) about a foot off the cab. I really liked the sound; not much if anything done to it in GB and flat eq in my cheapo Behringer mixer. Apparently this works well for reverby clean twang. My mic doesn't hold up under louder sounds but it's just as well. I also have an SM57 but I never thought it sounded like the amp. I do have a Behringer firewire A/D which was cheap since it has no preamp. It's a pretty new item and improved clarity for me over the Apple inputs.
Now off to fiddle with my P-90 grind sound!
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2006, 07:49:54 am » |
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Hey! Don't knock them Behringer chepo mixers.
I gots one too.
The mic pre amps are really good from what I understand.
Don't worry, be happy.
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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2006, 03:56:38 pm » |
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I'm not knocking the Behringers as I have 2 of them, but they are $cheap, meaning inexpensive, and they are NOT a piece of crap. I've been very pleased with both. I also have a Nady SCM 900 and I too like the sound but it is also $cheap. That is what I use when mic'ing my acoustics. It is not how much you spend for home recording, but how good the sound is for the money spent and both Behringer and Nady do an incredible job for the $. I also own the Behringer V-Amp II- http://www.hoffmanamps.com/Forum/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1145578002It doesn't cost any more than allot of effects pedals ($95), but offers so much more and is very versatile. I was getting tired of the sound of my Marshall. Sure I could adjust presence and drive, but the basic sound stayed the same. Now I have quite the variety to choose from and am still just learning what all the possibilities are. (Obviously, I'm not a purist.) |
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2006, 05:28:13 pm » |
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Guy I work with is nuts for the V-Amp. Myself I would like to try some Line6 toys one day.
Cheap gear rules. It is cheaper to save money than to make more spending money (taxes, overhead, etc).
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2006, 07:14:58 pm » |
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Beautiful clean guitar. I could care less about distortion after that...
A suggestion... the rhythm section could be a little stronger. I don't know if there's a way you could add bass, but that would really fill out a great song.
Beautiful tone. keep up the good work.
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madison
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2006, 07:19:54 pm » |
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$95 for the V-amp....holy @$%. Sounds like a good deal. I have a Yamaha DG Stomp and hate it.Never use it anymore. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't jumping anybody's azz about cheap gear.....I have/had plenty. I used to have a Line 6 amp when they first came out. It was pretty fun. Actually, the thing I linked most about that amp was the wah on the floorboard.....just sounded and felt really good. The slapback delays were quiet good too. IMHO I want to get a Behringer Midi foot controller for my next guitar rig toy. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Keyboards/Midi/MIDI/Controllers?sku=182469and a Behringer PA and a..... and a..... |
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